Greer claims debunked by council members


Councilwoman Carol Frey discussed the upcoming legislation regarding the increase of the permissive motor vehicle license tax during the council meeting. She stated she received several emails from Justin Greer, who is running for 1st Ward. Greer claims there is confusion regarding this piece of legislation. “I’m going to state the facts one more time,” Frey said.

If passed, this tax increase would be imposed on vehicle registrations in the city, with the exception of watercraft, and is part of the gas tax legislation that was passed and signed by Gov. DeWine in July of this year. The current cost in Barberton is $25 and would be raised to $30. The funds raised by the increase would assist paying for the paving of permissive streets, which are essentially the main thoroughfares. 

In this case, the city would receive an additional $90,000 per year from this increase and it can only be used for the permissive streets. These funds are used for street markings, crack sealing, traffic signalization, planning, engineering and also to pay the 20% of ODOT projects. When the city is awarded with a grant from ODOT, they pay for 80% of the project and the city is responsible for the remaining 20%. 

She gave the Wooster Road N. project from East Avenue to the State Street bridge as an example, stating that the entire project is going to cost the city approximately $1.8 million over the next few years. That is only 20% of the overall cost, which is over $9 million. 

“You can see the use of the permissive funds helps very much with getting our roads done.” She also stated that it’s been said that these funds can be used to pay down the debts from other projects, such as the Ninth Street project, and she said that is not true and claims it has been funded entirely by Issue 8 money, an additional income tax that was added to be used for the residential streets. “It’s simply a $5 charge, which I would think that any community within the state of Ohio that has the option is going to do it.”

Service Director Mike Vinay said, “This is a very important piece of legislation and is important for our future so please consider it.” Mayor William Judge also brought up misleading statements on social media including Greer responding to a resident who asked what a permissive street was and he said, “It’s just a fancy term.” 

As you have read above, that is not true. Judge said, “Money generated for permissive streets has to be used on permissive streets.” He also said that investing in the city’s infrastructure will bring more people and businesses to the city and asked, “Who wants to invest in a city that doesn’t invest in itself?”


  1. Richard Logano on November 9, 2019 at 9:44 pm

    Maybe they will use the 5 Extra dollars to pay off the advanced money they used to drastically improve the 9th St Area. What a waste to use such a large chick in one part of the city. That’s the answer to everything in this town, Need more money let’s continue to tax the shit out of the citizens! I call Bull$hit!

  2. Facts 1st on November 8, 2019 at 1:16 pm

    It is literally a $5 charge per vehicle. He should stop making a fuss about nothing in attempt to just get people upset over nothing. We all want the roads fixed, but do not want to do anything to help get that done. Roads are a service provided to a cities citizens – services are paid for. You wouldn’t go to a dry cleaner and be upset that THEY didn’t pay YOU for the service or that they expected you to pay for their service.

    • edbassmaster on November 9, 2019 at 5:48 am

      were being taken to the dry cleaners!!! 🤣

    • Coach on November 9, 2019 at 5:52 am

      ‘Facts” you stupid son of a bitch. Let’s see.. property tax. Income tax. Sales tax. Gas tax. All the levy’s. All the misc fees and charges.

      So that’s just money they can waste? And provide nothing for? But an extra 5 bucks (or the 90k annually the article states) is our responsibility to fix the roads?

      90k ain’t gonna fix shit. Moron

      Fax 1st (sic)

      • edbassmaster on November 9, 2019 at 6:39 am

        you’re immature coach!! good ole moral highgrounders!! ooofahhh my guy!! 🤣😂🤣

        • edbassmaster on November 9, 2019 at 6:42 am

          you’re not wrong coach. just immature…

      • edbassmaster on November 9, 2019 at 6:45 am

        trust me. mature to her means dead inside!!!

        • edbassmaster on November 9, 2019 at 7:01 am

          dammit. you put coach into melonfest mode

  3. John waite on November 7, 2019 at 9:49 pm

    Sell the damn TV and use that money.seems you only have inner in front of the courthouse all the sets leading into the city suck.also I thought the magic mile was to bring people to that are on fixed income can’t afford fixed sts.

    • edbassmaster on November 8, 2019 at 7:56 am

      Dont get me goin on that luxurious RV. The magic mile was a BIG waste. was just a “fancy word” for catering to imbecility. 😂💰💩

  4. Smn on November 7, 2019 at 7:10 pm

    Wasn’t that gas tax hike supposed to be for the infrastructures of each city? If so then why does Barberton need another $5.00 tax increase? I’m just curious..

  5. Citizens_are_us on November 7, 2019 at 2:12 pm

    Facts don’t apply to people like him or his voter base. It’s about reactionary emotions based on angry social media rants.

    • Independent on November 7, 2019 at 2:27 pm

      Much agreed!

    • G.O.P. on November 8, 2019 at 7:41 am

      You mad that he won? I am glad! Change is coming!

    • edbassmaster on November 8, 2019 at 7:48 am

      only hate and anger I see here is from the ones who cannot accept a loss! I’ve never seen anyone bad mouthing other councilmen. But boy you all had crap to say about Rocky,Bebe and Justin. If Josh woulda won you’d be bad mouthing him too.Get u a frappuccino and cry tears of soy into it. You are irrelevant! No participation trophy for you!!

      • Citizens_are_us on November 16, 2019 at 12:10 pm

        You LITERALLY just proved my point with that idiotic rant. Thank you.

        • edbassmaster on November 17, 2019 at 6:51 am

          learn how to take a loss! 🤣

  6. Coach on November 7, 2019 at 1:38 pm

    Bosnia had better road surfaces. In fact so did Colombia and Venezuela. . .

  7. Coach on November 7, 2019 at 1:37 pm

    I am humiliated every time I have to come into barberton . Just the mere act of entering the “city” limits is sheer humiliation

  8. Coach on November 7, 2019 at 1:37 pm

    Why dont you scumbags just fix the damn roads.

    • Resident North! on November 7, 2019 at 3:51 pm

      NoNoNo!!! What happened to the money that was a percentage that the council passed? I thought that was for the roads! We can’t keep paying for everything! Let’s just give them our paychecks and we can go to the company store to get our food! That’s what it is coming to! Keep hitting the people up! I have bills to pay so No No No!

      • JAS on November 7, 2019 at 4:46 pm

        how longs is it going to take before the CITY fixes our roads been here 25 years roads still not fixed bad bad bad were grtting tired of waiting thanks

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